The Insider | Andi Gladwin, Joshua Jay and George Luck

Look, it's our show, and our rules and we're allowed to break them for something special.

Last week, we persuaded Andi, Josh and George to get together and talk about VI's book publishing, how Andi got into publishing books, which VI books Josh thinks should be on every magician's shelf, which George thinks were the hardest to produce and of course, Andi's new book, The Boy Who Cried Magic.

Sorry about George's and Josh's audio in this episode. We learned they really shouldn't use the inbuilt mic on their laptops...

And yes, there's a bit where I stumble over a question and say I'll edit that bit out, but I left it in because I thought it was marginally amusing. :)

And if you're more of a visual learner, here's the video: